Interview with Ridley Scott on BBC, admits movie was cut.

journeyman

The film is violent and tense but Sir Ridley - who has been an
outspoken critic of the current rules of film ratings - insists he cut
as much he could to open the film to a wider audience.

"It has to be be about the movie, so I've made concessions. There's a moment where you don't want to harm the movie.

But he acknowledges its a case of simple economics and getting an 18 certificate "could be the difference of $80m or more".

"It isn't real - I have monsters. Like the monsters in Lord
of the Rings, for kids they were pretty scary but they got a PG-13
because their blood was black, that's rubbish".

FULL INTERVIEW: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17701436

journeyman

Could we see more gore and extra visceral scenes restored for a future release?

StasisInterrupted

They will release a director's cut blu-ray after every last one of us has ordered the standard blu-ray and not before! Gotta drain us of all our money. lol

journeyman

I might hold off on buying the Blu Ray until such time as we get a DC.

Although... if everyone does that they may not deem sales high enough to warrant a DC.

Tricky.

Terraformer

25 years later, "Prometheus Final Cut' will be released

journeyman

Terraformer said:
25 years later, "Prometheus Final Cut' will be released

In a box set with the 7 other versions.

XenaVita

I want the directors cut in theatres!

journeyman

Finally the "is Vickers a robot" question will be answered because Janeck leaves an origami unicorn in her escape pod.

StasisInterrupted

For all we know there will NEVER be a director's cut, but we can hope.

seanml

i thought the cinematic version was Ridley's directors cut?

Wintergreene

StasisInterrupted said:
For all we know there will NEVER be a director's cut, but we can hope.

Yes, there may never be one unless they release on in the next few years. Ridley is in his seventies!

Sheldor

Let's do a quick check of Ridley's latests: American Gangster: Director's Cut, Kingdom Of Heaven: DC, BHD: extended cut.

Plus, Kingdom Of Heaven and American Gangster pretty much had the DC very fast after those were released on DVD (not sure if it was as soon as the DVD hit though).

burke

seanml said:
i thought the cinematic version was Ridley's directors cut?

w

You are correct, but Ridleys business talk doesnt inspire hope that he got the cut that he wanted. We are clutching at straws though trying to mask our disappointment.

journeyman said:
Finally the "is Vickers a robot" question will be answered because Janeck leaves an origami unicorn in her escape pod.

In the sequel Vickers eerges from beneath the juggernaut and copulates with the new Xeno to create a super replicant xeno mash up.

journeyman

seanml said:
i thought the cinematic version was Ridley's directors cut?

So he said... but then he's just admitted it was cut.

I can see what he's saying though. The theatrical cut of a movie will always be the directors cut because it is the cut that the director has passed for distribution. Even if the MPAA, BBFC, etc demand cuts he is the one to do that and he then sends it back so whatever we were presented with is what the director finally decided he was happy with for that rating.

It wouldn't be a good tactic to say "Oh by the way, I had to remove stuff to avoid an 18" when this was being advertised... people would be loathe to see an edited movie.

Nautilus

Well I guess we was hoping that because this was Ridley Scott sci-fi the studio may have given him some breathing space.

I'm starting to wonder what really happened with this film, starts off as two films, but only one is given the go ahead, Lindelof is bought in to change the script, film is cut down to two hours.

I feel bad for bad mouthing him if this is the case.

Brian_O_Blivion

journeyman said:
"It isn't real - I have monsters. Like the monsters in Lord
of the Rings, for kids they were pretty scary but they got a PG-13
because their blood was black, that's rubbish".

I love it, such a sense of indignation.

I think he's right though, there were at least several beheadings and impalements that would have possibly got LOTR a higher rating if the blood had come across even the darkest shade of crimson.

Carne

He definitely did not cut this down to 2 hours himself, Fox ordered him to. They want a short movie because that guarantees more money. If Ridley had said no they could have refused to fund and release the movie.

UBIK

Speaking about blood being red or black...have a look at this scene from Ridley Scott's The Duellists made in 1977:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/8595645/horseback_scene_from_the_duellists_1977/

At about 1 mins mark, a lot of red blood spilling from Harvey Keitel's head. Seems to me that Scott loves gory result from the beginning. LOL.

Visionist

The Duellists looks awesome. I'll have to get hold of it.

Hephaestus

journeyman said:
Finally the "is Vickers a robot" question will be answered because Janeck leaves an origami unicorn in her escape pod.

I missed this... What?

Hephaestus

Carne said:
He definitely did not cut this down to 2 hours himself, Fox ordered him to. They want a short movie because that guarantees more money. If Ridley had said no they could have refused to fund and release the movie.

Avatar, Titanic, Lord of the Rings... All in the Top 5 highest grossing films ever, all at least 3 hours long.

Nautilus

@Hepthaestus Blade runner joke.

Nautilus

Hephaestus said:

Carne said:
He definitely did not cut this down to 2 hours himself, Fox ordered him to. They want a short movie because that guarantees more money. If Ridley had said no they could have refused to fund and release the movie.

Avatar, Titanic, Lord of the Rings... All in the Top 5 highest grossing films ever, all at least 3 hours long.

None of those films where rated R as far as I recall.

burke

Nautilus said:
Well I guess we was hoping that because this was Ridley Scott sci-fi the studio may have given him some breathing space.

I'm starting to wonder what really happened with this film, starts off as two films, but only one is given the go ahead, Lindelof is bought in to change the script, film is cut down to two hours.

I feel bad for bad mouthing him if this is the case.

Either they wanted one movie in order to be a sure banker OR as i think they deliberately made it ambiguous in order to pave the for another movie .

Hephaestus

Nautilus said:

Hephaestus said:

Carne said:
He definitely did not cut this down to 2 hours himself, Fox ordered him to. They want a short movie because that guarantees more money. If Ridley had said no they could have refused to fund and release the movie.

Avatar, Titanic, Lord of the Rings... All in the Top 5 highest grossing films ever, all at least 3 hours long.
None of those films where rated R as far as I recall.

That was discussing running time, not ratings!

UBIK

Scott himself said that he was obviously influenced by Stanley Kubrick's Barry Lyndon when making The Duellists. Kubrick's influenced a lot of film-makers, even Prometheus has a lot of 2001: A Space Odyssey influences.

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