Heh, and Holloway missed those.

EDIT: Those Engineers were indeed playing with fire.

those are more likely to be engineers not humans in the mural. my thought all along is the engineers and xenos are tied to together in some sort of strange birth/death ritual. I guess when there is no host species to allow xeno births the engineers do it themselves. 

Yep, would make much more sense that those are engineers. In the original Giger Alien Lifecycle you can see a Engineer release a facehugger onto another Engineer. Maybe it's more than just a nice picture and Engineers and Xenomorphs are more related to each other as we think.

Viscal said:

Great find and neat pic!  Thanks for sharing that photo.

It's interesting that they decided to use so much of the old designs in the movie. I hope though that we never actually see a facehugger that looks like this.

The_Last_Proxy said:

Viscal said:

Great find and neat pic!  Thanks for sharing that photo.

It's interesting that they decided to use so much of the old designs in the movie. I hope though that we never actually see a facehugger that looks like this.

I'm sure that they will be in the sequel - " Prometheus 2 -  Electric Boogaloo" :-)

That's an astounding find to spot Giger's early Alien designs in the Mural!

The Alien Lifecycle mural was intended to be used in the original film but gave too much of the plot away. What it shows in the centre is obvious but the humanoid framing the picture depicts someone carefully overseeing the process. In Alien this was Ash whose job was to supervise the gestation until birth.

xinau said:

Didn't someone here note that some of the filigree surrounding the Engineer + Space Tapir mural on the ceiling is actually lifted directly from the lifecycle mural?

I know I'm not imagining that.

Yeah, Bonussituation for one did an overlay of the original piece and the space tapir mural, and the worm looking stuff indeed was a 100% match.

So these discussions and murals have completely changed my opinion of the fate of the original SJ on the Derelict.  The Engineers are totally into self-sacrifice.  Like the Gardener, his sacrifice creates all life on lifeless planets.  Other Engineers sacrifice themselves to be vessels for Xenos.

I always thought the SJ in Alien was a victim but now I think it was intentional, a form of Gardening but with the results to be a Xeno colony.

DeathIncarnate said:

xinau said:

Didn't someone here note that some of the filigree surrounding the Engineer + Space Tapir mural on the ceiling is actually lifted directly from the lifecycle mural?

I know I'm not imagining that.

Yeah, Bonussituation for one did an overlay of the original piece and the space tapir mural, and the worm looking stuff indeed was a 100% match.

Can you provide a link to this please? I'd love to see it.

So this basically confirms what a lot of people seem to be disputing for some reason. The Engineers knew all about the proto-xenos and how to "manufacture" them. Some people seem to think the one in the end is the very first of its kind, despite the clues given in the Alien Mural.

^ like a messed up sea horse!